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Overcoming TemptationHow Temptation worksIt begins with our desire by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12The Bible summarizes the process of temptation as follows, "but each one is tempted when, by his own evil desire, he is dragged away and enticed.† Then, after desire has conceived, it gives birth to sin; and sin, when it is full-grown, gives birth to death." (James 1:14,15 )† Notice the word desire (or lust in the NASB), this is the starting point for temptations.† I find it interesting that the word is singular.† Our evil desire. † That is that drive within us to have things, that craving within us.† Lust is also a very appropriate word since it captures that compelling force within us to have something.† Like when we see the person of our dreams and all we can think about and all our actions revolve around having him or her.† Notice also the word "evil" - for it is not wrong to have desires but now we see that the desires that lead to temptation are the ones which are evil.† So when we see the person of our dreams our desire is not so much to be kind to him/her (which is good) but use the person for our own sexual satisfaction. See the following list of verses on what the Bible says about our evil desires and temptation. 1 Pet 1:4; 1 Pet 2:11; 2 Pet 2:10; Rom 1:24; Rom 6:13; Rom 7:5; Gal 6:8 ; Eph 2:3; Eph 4:22 kirkboote writes on 2001-04-24
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It is when this desire is enticed by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Temptation does not occur simply because we have a desire, for we have many desires which come and then go away as fast as they came. Rather temptation happens when those desires are not just a fleeting idea but one that captures us, one where we say, "yes, that would be good". And by good I do not mean a right thing to do but we perceive it as good for me even as Eve perceived the fruit to be both good and pleasing (Gen 3:6) for her. This is where the rationalization begins for one is not thinking so much about what really is good but simply what would be "good" for me at this very present moment. Arnet Hales writes on 2001-05-12
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Examples by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Illustrated with addictions: An alcoholic begins to feel sad and empty and something within him begins to long for a drink. He thinks about it for a moment and says, "Ya, it would be good to have a drink" Notice he has not decided to drink he has only decided to agree with his desire that this would be a good thing (we´ll pick up on that later). Illustrated with anger: A mother is working really hard to get everything done around the house. Things are a mess, everything is going wrong. She begins to get frustrated. During this time her thoughts are getting more and more worked up. Her son comes home throws his bag down the stairs and it knocks over the table light. In a split second her mind replays the sound, the days struggles, and she just really wants to give it to him and then she does. Illustrated with peer pressure: A teenager goes to school. She sees all the cool people sitting together at lunch, laughing. She is alone. Inside is growing a desire to be accepted by that group. The thought does not leave her but haunts her every step in the hallways. Everytime she sees people all she can think about is what they are thinking of her and if she could fit in. deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-07-13
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Biblical Stories of by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Adam and Eve (Gen 3) deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-07-13
The conflicting desires by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12And yet we also desire for God. The Apostle Paul talks about the struggle within him in how part of him wants to follow God and the other parts wants to do it´s own way (Rom 7:14-24) He is so frustrated he says, "who will rescue me from this body of death?" Yet what we are going to learn is that the chapter does not end there and neither are we stuck in the constant cycle of bondage. He answers his question, "Thanks be to God -- through Jesus Christ our Lord!" and goes on in the next chapter "Therefore, there is now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus, because through Christ Jesus the law of the Spirit of life set me free from the law of sin and death." (Rom 8:1,2) We will see later how to begin to experience this freedom but for now let us note that we have these two desires battling within us, the desire for God and the desire for our own things. chris gudger writes on 2001-07-04
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The old bridge illustration again by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Let me review the† the bridge illustration from the section on the Gospel and show how it illustrates this.† We have said that the Gospel can be compared to a great canyon with God on one side and man on the other.† On the side where man is people are doing whatever they want, some are doing good and some evil but all of them are living their life apart from God.† You see, they do not recognize God as their King and so they have built their own castle (their own little life) apart from God. † Then they learn God and how wonderful He is.† They learn that they will one day be judged and everything on this side is doomed to fall into the canyon and will be destroyed.† They hear of how God has made a bridge by the cross where Jesus will carry them from one side to the other.† They desire to leave their old life and walk with God so they ask Jesus to carry them over.†† He does and now they stand on new ground, where they can walk with God and their work will last forever. Temptation then is when they are standing on the other side and they look back and remember the things they used to enjoy.† Perhaps they see the old castle and they wonder if it could still bring them some pleasure and if they are missing out on something.† They forget however that the old castle is simply a card-board cut out, fake, unreal, never able to satisfy, and though they thought they were king over their old life they really were slaves in shackles to the sin which really ruled them.† But this is forgotten because their vision has become so small that they can no longer see the larger picture which includes God and the truth about the old life.† They try it again and it leaves them empty and heart-broken, for now they have tasted of the goodness of God and all those old things are even more empty than before.† They are disappointed and to make things worse their heart brakes that they hurt the one they are coming to love so dear - God. † Mspastwife writes on 2001-02-17
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It comes down to a choice by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12But there is that point where they are standing there on the other side looking back, longing to have something of the old life they have left behind, where they have to make a choice.†† Are they going to try to rebuilt what was forsaken or are they going to follow God?
All of temptation comes down to a moment when a person is confronted with a choice, "yes" or "no".† I agree that there are times when it seems that it just happened and it is like we wake up after yelling at someone and wonder how that happened but even there it was a choice, even though it took only a millisecond.† For some the choice was made a long time ago and they chose not to ever care if they yell or not, that it does not matter.† They might realize that it does and try to stop but the old pattern is there and they make the choice almost instinctively.† They continue to choose ahead of time not to yell at others out of a growing desire for what is good instead of evil.† As time goes on they begin to recognize that millisecond where the choice lies and the millisecond seems to grow.† They begin to make the right choice. "Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its evil desires." (Rom 6:12) futbolmamasita writes on 2001-07-22
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Since it is a choice, it comes down to which do we love more by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12The choice really is between sin and God.† The more I love sin the more prone I will be to have sin.† The more I love God the more I will want to follow Him. † The hard truth is that when I choose to sin I am really saying I love it more than God.† It is an idol to me and must go.† The exciting truth is that the more I come to love God, the less power sin will have over me.
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The choice needs to be right away by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Since temptation begins with our evil desire it is best to get temptation at that level.† As soon as you feel that you might be being dragged away by your desires or you sense that your evil desires have potential of being enticed, turn away.† If your struggle is with pornography don¥t go near places that sell it.† If your struggle is with alcohol then don¥t go by the bar.† If you struggle with anger, then do things that will calm you down as soon as you feel it coming.† One of my old deans at Prairie High School said that temptation is like a slide. † At the top you are going slow but the further down you get the faster you are going.† It is far easier to slow down and stop yourself at the top then at the bottom.† Likewise the moment you feel temptation might be coming along get out of there.† Something within you will try to tell you that it is okay and that it won¥t hurt just to think about it for a moment.† It will tell you that you don¥t have to do it, just think about it.† It will say, "wouldn¥t it be fun to do that?". † It will begin to suggest all the great ways you could do it and you will be caught. † So as soon as it opens it¥s mouth tell it to shut up!
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Stages Outlined by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12I just spoke about what I call the inner voice of temptation. Here is are some general statements this inner voice of temptation makes in order to get you started (I put then in general order). I am not referring so much to demonic influence (although in some cases this plays a role) but to what psychologists call "self-talk". deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-07-26
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Temptation (Cont´d) by lenblaides, 2000-12-22Temptation and how it works
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Temptation by lenblaides, 2000-12-22Temptation is an attempt to persuade someone to do something unwise or evil. It is important to know that God does not tempt anyone, but he does test everyone.
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We cannot do it ourselves.... by restless_poet, 2001-02-06One of our biggest downfalls in giving in to temptation is the thinking that says we have to fight temptation with our own strength. But that is actually one of the worst ways to fall into it. How? The Word says we are enticed by our own evil desires. (James 1:14 ) Our flesh already has all of the ammunition the enemy needs - right within us - to pull us off the right track, within our normal human desires. Oftentimes, those desires may seem good. Being strong. Putting up a good fight. But if it is of our own strength and to fight the devil our way, it is sin. Jesus said "apart from me you can do nothing. " (John 15:5 ) And that would include winning the battle against temptation. Only He, who defeated sin and death on Calvary, can truly resist temptation. So how do we give Him control to win the fight? Surrender to Him. Stay close to Him. Let Him in our lives in those areas we haven´t given up our own ways. It´s amazing all the "little" ways and "little" attitudes we leave open for the enemy. If satan is going to use ammo that is already in our flesh, then we need to continually be letting God have more and more control of our lives. That´s like taking ammunition away from the enemy! Isn´t that a wonderful thought? No wonder the Word says it is through our laying down our lives to Him that our minds are renewed and we are transformed into our image! (Romans 12:1 ) He is good. faith writes on 2001-07-04
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Jeff And Tony by SpiritualAdrenaline, 2001-07-03After reading the sermon at http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/0460.htm regarding perentence and faith I have come full circle. At first I though repentence was just saying I was sorry. Then i thought it was agreeing with God that what I had done was wrong. Then I even thought for a time that I didn´t need to repent anymore becuase God had forgiven ALL of my sins, past, present, and future, when I was saved. Now I know it is an ongoing process and why some sins are harder to leave behing.
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Start with repentanceIt means to turn around by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Repentance is often defined as "a change of heart/thought which leads to a change in action" In short we call that a U-turn. Once we were walking in sin but now we are walking after God. It has to start here because unless we give up our sin then we will over and over again fall into it. futbolmamasita writes on 2001-07-22
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More than just feeling sorry by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Jan Hettinga in his book, "Follow Me" (it´s on the reading list in the bookroom) tells how repentance is much more than simply feeling sorry. Imagine if a couple had a fight and they said some awful things to each other. Afterwards they felt bad about it so they said they were sorry. Now imagine another situation and compare which one would make for a better marriage. The same couple got in the same fight and felt just as bad about it. The difference is that they decided that they have had enough of this and that they wanted to stop hurting each other. So they confessed that they were wrong in what they had said and done during the fight and they told each other that they repent, or give up that way of dealing with their problems. Moreover, they want the other person´s help to overcome these problems. lenblaides writes on 2000-12-22
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The Bible uses the term death to the old nature by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12The Bible calls this step of repentance death. "What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? By no means! We died to sin; how can we live in it any longer? " (Rom 6:1-2) This is what our mindset should be about that old way of life, we should consider ourselves dead to it. (Rom 6:11). I am not saying that we should consider ourselves to be dead for the verse says "died to sin". It is sin that we are dead to, in fact, we are also alive for the next verses say that just as we died with Christ we are also raised with Him to a new life. This gives us freedom for it is written "Anyone who has died has been freed from sin." (Rom 6:7) So how does this consider oneself dead to sin work out? Imagine trying to tempt a dead person with their favorite chocolate bar or cake. That would be ridiculous. They will not respond to it or even have any desire to it. Likewise, this should be our response to sin. As soon as it comes up you can quote the Bible verse, "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me." (Gal 2:20 ) Our attitude towards sin then should be recognizing that we have in the past already died to it and it is no longer an option. And it is not only to the sin that we must consider ourselves dead to the sinful nature but also to the sinful desires that go with it. "Those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the sinful nature with its passions and desires." (Gal 5:24 ). This takes care of the very source of temptation for as we already stated temptation begins with the desire. If we die to those desires then it breaks the pattern from the start. deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-01
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This is what is symbolized in baptism by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12The next verse in Romans 6 says, "Or don´t you know that all of us who were baptized into Christ Jesus were baptized into his death? We were therefore buried with him through baptism into death in order that, just as Christ was raised from the death through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life." (Rom 6:3-4) This is the picture of baptism. When we are lowered into the water it is a symbol that we have died with Christ to our old way of life. When we are raised up it is a symbol that we have been raised to a new life of freedom in Christ. When we choose to get baptized then we are saying that we have chosen to give up our old life and follow Christ. Later on when we are tempted, we remember that commitment we made and can say, "No, when I was baptized I already answered this question, I have given up that way of life, I will not do it." lenblaides writes on 2000-12-22
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Much like blowing up the old castle by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12We have been describing the old life of sin as a castle on one side of a canyon with our new life with God on the other.†† This repentance we are speaking about is like firing a missile at that old castle and watching it burn.† There is no turning back.
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Or closing the door by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Another illustration I have used is to close the door on sin. In some ways temptation is like a nasty salesman who keeps knocking on the door of your life. He wants in and will tell you anything to sell you his product but once it gets in it is hard to get rid of it. It´s like he wants to stay and just keep selling you stuff. So you have to have him thrown out and then lock the door. Refuse to open it no matter how much he knocks. Sometimes I picture in my mind welding the door shut so never again can I open it for him. That area of my life is closed and I will not go back to it. deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-01
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Start with repentance by lenblaides, 2000-12-22Repentance has its foundation in knowledge for there is no reason for us to repent if we do not know what we have done to offend God.
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Starting with Repentance by SheriA, 2000-12-22Before you can receive the cleansing power of Christ you must open yourself to Him. Admitting your sins to Jesus and asking forgiveness is one step. Realizing that you have truly repented, which is to turn away from the habbit, act, or way you asked Jesus to forgive you of. We have the power to resist all sin, for God does not give us more than we can handle and He always makes a way out for us. Our minds must be focused on Jesus. This is how we "close the door".
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Must desire something greaterCan´t just stay empty, have to be filled with somethin by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Freedom begins with repentance but it does not end there. If it did then we would have forsaken all our evil desires but would be left with nothing to replace them. Finding an emptiness we would either fill that with something else or go back to what we had before. In (Romans 6:1-4 ) it tells us that we have not only died but we have also been raised. In (Gal 2:20 ) we learn we have not only been crucified with Christ but now Christ lives in us. futbolmamasita writes on 2001-07-22
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Set your mind on things above by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12The Bible distinguishes between the one who gives into temptation and the one who lives out the freedom Christ has given, "Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires." (Rom 8:5) This idea of fixing our mind on the things of God and what He wants is what is means to live by the Spirit. "So I say, live by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the sinful nature. " (Gal 5:16 ) It is all about mind-set (or where we set our mind). If all we think about is sin and how to please it guess what will happen. If all we think about is God and how to please Him guess what will happen. No wonder the Bible says, "Do not conform any longer to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God´s will is -- his good, pleasing and perfect will." (Rom 12:2) "clothe yourselves with the Lord Jesus Christ, and do not think about how to gratify the desires of the sinful nature." (Rom 13:14) "Since, then, you have been raised with Christ, set your hearts on things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God. Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things. For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God." (Col 3:1-3 ) Chris Priebe writes on 2001-05-17
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Compared to WWJD by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12This idea of fixing one´s mind on things above is similar to the little saying "What Would Jesus Do?" or WWJD. This is a little saying many people have used to help them live for God and it is a very helpful one. Imagine if you are writing a test and feel tempted to cheat and you think, "What would Jesus do?" It sort of breaks down the lies and rationalizations of temptations doesn´t it. The same is true about addictions and responding to one´s emotions. Imagine being really mad at someone and all you want to do is knock them out or tell them off then you think "What would Jesus do?" or even "What did Jesus do?". Now you are fixing your mind on the things of God. And there are many other ways to set one´s mind on things above. When you think about how heaven is real, how great it is and one day you will spend eternity there it will help give you the strength to make wise choices since you are looking at higher things. If you remember how Christ overcame temptation and how He is in heaven right now and you look to Him to give you the strength then He will. Even if you just look to God and fall deeper in love with Him you are setting your mind on things above and finding greater freedom from the things which want to hold you down. SheriA writes on 2001-01-11
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Turn to Worship by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12A friend once told me that when an evil thought comes for the struggle is not so much with the body but with the mind. When the thought comes, send it away and replace it with the cross of Christ. "Finally, brothers, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable--if anything is excellent or praiseworthy--think about such things." (Philippians 4:8 ) One way I am learning to combat the serpents desires whispered in my ear as sweet fantasies dipped in poison is through worship. Instead of diving into the darkness and fighting it I turn towards the light and let the light cast out the darkness. You see, I have a choice of focusing on two different desires. The first is that I can focus on those the enemy tries to tempt me with. I can try to resist them or fight against them but often I find myself too weak and instead of making them go away, my concentration on them causes them to grow in both number and force. My second option is to focus on something far greater and wonderful, namely the Almighty God. As I do this my heart is full of worship instead of wickedness, love instead of lust, wonder at His awesomeness over my anxiety of my awfulness. I can only concentrate on one thing at a time, be it God or sin. The more I focus on God, the more my desires and love are shift to Him who set me free and less towards my sin which I begin to see as ugly and binding. The problem that I often have is which do I love more when the decision must be made, my God or the sin. I must begin to know and love God more now so when my old lover, called sin, comes knocking on my door, I know who I will turn to. But how can one begin to worship in such a situation. Start with a simple prayer of worship like this, "Holy, holy, holy is the LORD Almighty; the whole earth is full of his glory." (Isaiah 6:3 b), and let the Holy Spirit lead from there. lenblaides writes on 2000-12-22
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Our desire for God will grow stronger than desire for sin by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Over time you will find that you will grow to love God more and more and the desire for God will be far greater than your desire for sin.† The things which hold you back now you will one day look at and say, "Hah, you don¥t even compare to what I have in God"† There is an old song we sing in Church, "Turn your eyes upon Jesus and the things of Earth will grow strangely dim in the light of His glory and grace."
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Must desire something greater by lenblaides, 2001-01-08To everything there is a good side and there is a bad side.
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Combine it with faithStill not enough, must also have faith by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Even if you have repented from your sin and you sincerely desire to follow God it will not be enough if you do not believe that God has freed you from that sin and that you can have God.† I have quoted a few times Gal 2:20 but have been saving the second part of it till now, the entire verse goes "I have been crucified with Christ and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me.† The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me."† (Gal 2:20 )† The next verse goes on to tell how we need to keep trusting God (as opposed to our own efforts) not only to save us but also to make us righteous (right living) "I do not set aside the grace of God, for if righteousness could be gained through the law, Christ died for nothing!" (Gal 2:21 )
See also (Rom 1:5; Rom 1:17; Rom 9:30-31, Eph 6:16 ) futbolmamasita writes on 2001-07-22
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Pray to be kept from it by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Jesus has taught us to pray in the Lord´s prayer, "And lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one." (Mt. 6:13) Imagine how helpful it would be to pray this every morning and every time we feel tempted. Notice also that if we are going to pray it then we need to act on it. It sounds strange but sometimes we put ourselves in a place where we are going to be tempted. It is like the person who is freed from an addiction to alcohol and then has a drink to see if he is really free. Why bother asking God not to allow (I say allow because God does not tempt but allows (James 1:13 )) us to be led into temptation and then not bother to take the way out? Arnet Hales writes on 2001-05-07
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Believe you can endure it by God by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12I often ask people if it is possible for them to not sin.† Too often they say that it is not possible to not sin.† Be certain that I am not saying that we will never sin again but to say that we have to sin is like giving up before we have even started. † Sure, chances are we will blow it a few times yet but I do hope that by the time I die I will not be struggling with the same temptations I am struggling with now in the same way.† Christ did not die for nothing, He died to set us free!† God gives us an amazing promise, "No temptation has seized you except what is common to man.† And God is faithful; he will not let you be tempted beyond what you can bear.† But when you are tempted, he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it." ( 1 Cor 10:13) Here we have two promises we can claim and hold onto by faith.† The first is that no matter how difficult the temptation is and how much we feel that we cannot do it - it is not beyond our ability right now in our Christian life to bear it.† To say anything less is to call God a liar.† The second promise is like it.† No matter how inescapable the temptation seems, God guarantees that He will provide a way out.† The question then is, "Are we willing to take it?"
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Believe God has something better by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12When the serpent was trying to get Adam and Eve to sin he deceived them into thinking that God was keeping them from something good (Gen 3:4-5). He told them that the fruit would not make them die like God said it would but that God really wants to keep them from their full potential of being like God Himself and knowing good and evil. Things have not changed much since then. The Devil is still trying to convince people that God´s ways result in missing out on the good things of life, and even today, the lie is just as empty as before. Understand my dear friend, that Satan has nothing of lasting value to offer you. It might feel good for a moment but it will soon pass away and you will feel more empty afterwards then when you started because that is all his plan to get you hooked. All he has to offer is hell because that is all he has for eternity. God on the other hand paves his eternal streets in gold, He is building a new Heaven and Earth for you to enjoy with Him, He wants to reward you beyond your imagination and He wants to be active in your life today providing joy, peace, love, and a relationship with Him that compares to nothing on Earth. deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-07
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Take the way out by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Finally friend, all these words are in vain if you do not take the way out.† You can know all you want about repentance, desires, and faith but if you do not bother to stand on that repentance, to pursue your desire for God, and hold onto God by faith then you will be blown around by every desire that comes your way.† This is a harsh way of saying it but it would be a shame if after reading all this it never made a difference in your life.† God promises a way out, you have learned about it, what shall you do?
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Combine it with Faith by lenblaides, 2001-01-08Faith combined with anything that requires action will usually produce results.
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Must look up to see the way out by Chris Priebe, 2001-03-28If you put a buzzard in a pen six or eight feet square and entirely
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Who¥s in Control by D-lite, 2002-05-191) Temptation the obstacle: Temptation comes packaged in many different ways. Itís like those stacking boxes ñ you have one large box and every time you open one box, you find another inside, until you get to a tiny little box. In that box you discover what the ìbox really containsî. Temptation is like that, it really comes down to one thing ñ CONTROL. All the other boxes are just decoys to get our focus off the real issue inside - who is going to be in control. Every temptation boils down to that one issue ñ will I trust in God alone or will I take control and do it my way. Trusting in God means that I have to give the control to Him. Will I trust Godís plan (even if I donít know what it is) or will I make the situation work my way, because I have to have control.
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What if you blow it?The Bible indicates we will sin by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12God does not want us to sin and so when John was writing 1 John under the inspiration of God he said, "My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin." ( 1 John 2:1 ) But God also recognizes that we still do sin and so the verse continues, "But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One." He says, "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us" ( 1 John 1:8 ) and "If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness. If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives." ( 1 John 1:9-10 ) KINGSWOODSA writes on 2001-04-24
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Doesn´t mean we should go ahead and do it though by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12This is not to say that we should have an attitude of "Oh well I´ll just sin, God understands." for it says, "If we claim to have fellowship with him yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live by the truth" ( 1 John 1:6 ) and "The man who says, ´I know him,´ but does not do what he commands is a liar, and the truth is not in him." ( 1 John 2:4 ) The key there is on walking. If someone has no desire to walk with God then they have no right to call themself a Christian. On the other hand, if someone does want to walk with God but they stumble along in their journey, that is a different story. KINGSWOODSA writes on 2001-04-24
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It also says there is forgiveness by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Notice how in these verses how it says that we will sin but then immediately talks about forgiveness. "If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness" ( 1 John 1:8-9 ) "But if anybody does sin, we have one who speaks to the Father in our defense--Jesus Christ, the Righteous One." ( 1 John 2:1-2 ) So then, when we sin our first reaction should be to come back to God and ask for forgiveness. This is hard to do because we feel so bad that we wonder if God will take us. There is almost another temptation to wait to come back to God so we can grovel in our dirt and try to pay Him back somehow by our self-hatred. Indeed, we should be serious when we come back to God but there is nothing we can do to pay for our sin so there is no point beating ourselves up. Simply get on your knees right away, ask for His forgiveness and accept it. If the Devil tries to tell you you are not forgiven then call it for the lie it is and start thanking God by faith that He has forgiven you. KINGSWOODSA writes on 2001-04-24
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Forgive yourself too by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Even though God has forgiven us there sometimes is this feeling where we struggle to forgive ourselves. We might go around for a few days and beat ourself up. I like what my senior pastor said one day, "Thou shalt not should have yourself!" There is also a story of a pastor testing a prophet to see if he is for real by asking, "If you are a real prophet then ask God what sin I committed last week" The man replied, "God says, ´What sin!´" The point is, God deals with it by putting in on the cross and pays for it in completion, He looks at you and all He sees is the goodness of Christ placed on you and all the sins taken away. In your record is written, "Paid in full." If God can see you this way, why not see yourself so? KINGSWOODSA writes on 2001-04-24
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Read a Repentance Passage by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12After I have sinned and I am not sure what words I will use to confess to God I turn to (Psalm 51) where David is confessing his adultery with Bathsheba to God and finding God´s forgiveness. Lately I have been led to recite (Psalm 139) instead as God has been teaching me about His great love for me. SheriA writes on 2001-01-11
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Learn from it by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12It is a bit of a shame to admit but most of the things I have written here have come out of times when I have blown it and my heart has cried out to God to free me. In those times I have sought for answers on how to overcome and God has taught me because I was willing and hungry to know. I am happy that I am learning now out of both success and failure when faced with temptation. So next time you fall into that old temptation again, come back to God and ask for forgiveness. Ask Him why you fell and how to overcome next time. Spend time in prayer and Bible study, He will teach you. Arnet Hales writes on 2001-05-07
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What if I blow it. by lenblaides, 2001-01-08This has to be one of the most important questions in the mind of the young Convert.... What if I sin again?
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Pulling it all togetherIllustrations by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12
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Thoughts by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12 "Remember that God will always provide a way out. Ask for the door to be shown then don´t just stand there admiring the light it gives...walk through it." (1 Cor 10:13) "Giving in to temptation does not send it away but only gives it a rain-check to bother you later. The only way to cast it off is to stand strong against it´s might wind and crashing force and say, "I´m not afraid for I am anchored on the rock of Christ." Only when you´ve gone through all the storm will it go away, and then only to visit from time to time to see if you´ve loosed your grip." "When we fall into temptation we sin against the Mighty God alone because it is Him we call a liar and powerless for He is the one who said you are no longer a slave, that you will never be tempted beyond that which you can bear and that He would provide a way out." (Rom 6:17,18 ; 1 Cor 10:13) "You must say "no" not as if you are being overpowered and have no choice, just letting up a petition but knowing you will be defeated. Boldly say "NO" as you stand upon Golgotha, proclaiming you have ceased such actions and bursting forth in His resurrection proclaiming you have a power that frees you from such. A "no" that says I neither have to or will submit, you are less than what God has made me to be, now begone in the Name of Christ." "We must remember that we are dead so that when sin knocks on our coffin we can´t answer." (Rom 6:6-7,11) "We must love our freedom more than our sin." "We must love the Lord more than ourselves." Consider temptation as an opportunity to show God you love Him It is easier to never enter a sin (ex. pornography) then to do it and try to break the habit. What is the real reason one does not want to sin, so they won´t get caught and embarrassed or so they won´t dishonor the God they love? deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-21
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The 3D model introduced by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12For many years I wondered how everything worked together. By everything I am referring to how it is that I have a role in overcoming temptation and God has a role in overcoming temptation. I have developed an illustration that tries to tie together the information we have talked about and show how we work together with God to overcome our temptations. In essence there are three dimensions which represents three parts of our life that work together to either give into or overcome temptation. Our heart, our will and our spirit. It goes as follows. In math, if one wants to find the area of an object he simply multiplies the width by the height. Similarly if one wants to find the power to say "no" to temptation he can multiply his desire to give it up (that is ones willpower) by his desire for something greater (which is ones goal). They work together. If someone does not want to give up a sin he wont. If he does not have a greater goal then he will easily give in because it does not cost him much. Likewise, the greater one wants to give up a sin and the greater reason he has for doing it the more successful they will be. deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-21
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Dimension 1: The Will by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12 Yet this area can be increased by making such commitments. Such commitments are often complimented by little reminders. I used to wear a cross around my neck to remind me of my baptism where I said I would follow Christ. Others carry a nail in their pocket to remind them of their death with Christ. Some wear a WWJD (What would Jesus Do) bracelet as a reminder of their commitment to Christ. In order to strengthen this dimension we strengthen our repentance and stand on the fact that Christ has indeed set us free. This is like the length of the cube in our mathematical equation. The greater we make this single line the greater volume the cube is stretched to and thus the greater ability we have to overcome temptation, but this is not the only area. futbolmamasita writes on 2001-07-22
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Dimension 2: The Heart by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12 In the Christian context we recognize that the greatest desire we can have is God Himself and so another word for this is hunger. The question at hand here is do we love God more than our sin. This dimension is increased through hungering and thirsting after God. It is often after I fail that I realize I do not love God more than my sin. Then my soul wants to love Him more and it grows within me. This hunger also grows in both high and low emotional times. In the high times we are stretched to new experiences of God and are not satisfied to return (this often happens in really good praise and worship meetings). The really low times cause us to cry out to God and desire Him with all our heart. The opposing force to hunger is hindrances. Hindrances are those things which keep us from our goal. This includes environment. Someone who is struggling with evil thoughts will not be helped by walking into a video arcade, one struggling with lust to go to the pool. Conversely one who desires God will be helped by reading the Bible, going to Church, fellowshipping with other believers. We can learn a great deal from Joseph who when tempted with adultery fled from that environment so much that he left his cloak in his tempers hands (Genesis 39 ). Likewise if we want to overcome temptation, it sure helps to stay out of places and away from influences that tempt us. But it is not only ones outside environment but also ones inside. It is often when I am discouraged that I give in to temptation because I become apathetic and lose vision of my hunger for God. Not only does discouragement give temptation more strength but also does prosperity, for when I am wealthy, when I have everything, what place is there for hunger for God? I soon lose focus and have to realize my emptiness without God in order for my prosperity to be put in the right perspective again. One knows that if he gives into sin then that will cause pain in the relationship with God and the hungry soul cries out and says, "That costs too much, I cannot be without the closeness of God for a moment" The one who is hungry throws off everything that hinders and the sin that so easily entangles and runs without stopping the race God has marked out for her. She fixes her eyes on Jesus, whom she loves more than the world. And as she looks at the one who overcame temptation to the highest degree she finds strength to overcome that which stands before her today. (See Heb 12:1-3 ). It is much like gazing at the sun, when one does so, nothing else can be seen. So when one gazes at the Son nothing else can be seen and all the wordily things look like nothing in the light of His glory and grace. deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-21
Dimension 3: The Spirit by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12 But what good would a hungry soul do if one did not have faith? I mean, if this third dimension is not also strong what good would the second do? Imagine desiring God but not having faith that one can know Him. Or imagine forsaking sin but not believing God will bring freedom. A cube must have all three dimensions and when one dimension grows in influences all the other dimensions. This is the part that interacts and gives permission to the spiritual forces to take place. If one has doubts then the willpower and heart have less power. If one has faith then the willpower and heart have something to stand upon. The more faith, the more willpower is aided by God and the more the desire for God grows. Faith grows through reading the Bible, praying, seeing God work, going out on a limb, hearing stories of Gods deeds (through the Bible or biographies or missionary guests), hanging out with spiritual people (it tends to rub off on others) The opposition to my faith in God is the force of the Devil and let it be said that he often strikes the most when God is working or about to work greatly through us. Many have found encouragement and strength in this fact because it testifies that God is at work or the Devil would not be afraid. And so I find that just as there is a spiritual dimension that helps me overcome temptation there is also a spiritual dimension that tries to hold me down. Jesus taught us to pray, "And lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one" (Mt. 6:13) which expresses both faith and opposition. It is interesting how realizing that temptation is more than just a battle of your will but a battle of spiritual forces changes how one views temptation. And yet the Word of God declares, "the one who is in you [Gods Spirit] is greater than the one who is in the world." ( 1 John 4:4 b) So much so that we need to simply say, "The Lord rebuke you!" (Jude 1:9 b) and the devil must flee for "Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you." (James 4:7 ). But what value are these things if we have not faith? And how weak our faith seems when the Devil roars around us like a hungry lion. But fear not, the lion is chained by our Lord and his growls are useless. Lord, increase our faith to believe so. deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-21
Dimensions Combined by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12And the three work together, each complimenting each other. For willpower has little effect if one does not want to give up a sin, desires have little effect if one is not willing to give up what it takes to have them, and everything is useless without Gods hand which grants our desires and makes our willpower effective. And so we seek to have all three, and all three growing as life goes on. And if you multiply the three together you have an idea of one´s power to say "no" to sin. The first is our decision to give up sin and this must overpower our desire for our pleasures. The second must go with it and it is our hunger for God which must be stronger than the things that hold us back. And the last which makes them all real is our faith in God which must be greater than our fear of the devil. Likely we will not master it in a night but whenever we are tempted, whether we succeed or fail, think upon these three dimensions of your life, evaluate what is going on at each level (both before and after the temptation) And then seek to have them increased.
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A Strategy to Overcome by Chris Priebe, 2000-08-12Now let me give a strategy when temptation comes. First off, before it even comes to your door, ask God to search your heart and give up all sin that He reveals to you. Remember the cross and picture yourself dying with Christ. You have gone into the grave and left that old sin behind. It will be hard and you might feel that you cannot go on without some of it, but here faith comes in and God shall raise you to a new life. Now run after God and desire Him with all your heart. Read the Bible, pray, be in a Christian community that pushes you forward and holds you accountable. Now when that temptation comes knocking on your door. Do not give it second thought. For the moment you think that maybe you might do it or even the moment you allow yourself to think what it would be like to do it even though you do not intend on doing it, it has put its foot in the door and is harder to get out. So the first moment it comes remember the grave. Remember you have died and cannot go back to it anymore (that is why it is so important to surrender beforehand, so your answer will be ready). If you must, tell it you have died and will not give into its plea anymore. Claim the power of God and like the archangel Michael say to the devil The Lord rebuke you! (Jude 1:9 ) For it is in God that your power dwells so send God after the devil. Remember the Word of God, Submit yourselves, then, to God. Resist the devil, and he will flee from you (James 4:7 ) Do not believe for a moment the lie of the devil which says you cannot overcome it and you might as well give up. Claim the promise of God that he will also provide a way out so that you can stand up under it. ( 1 Cor 10:13) And then take that way out. Dont stand at the door wondering which one you will do, whether you will open the door and let temptation in or follow the path God made for you to escape. The decision was already made when you gave up that sin, dont second-guess yourself, follow God! Then set your heart on God. Remember how much you love Him and want to follow Him. Cry out to Him and let the hunger of your soul beg to be close to Him. Allow your soul to transition from fear of temptation (this is where the Devil wants to keep you for as long as you are afraid of the temptation and fighting it, you are thinking about it and he has a chance) to worship and pursuit of God. Then the more your soul transitions the less you will care about the temptation and the more consumed you will be with God. Then the devils plan shall turn against him for the very thing he thought might bring you down has lead you to worship and know the God you love more. And now one has begun to win but he must be careful for the devil is a crafty one. Knowing that he has not won this way he will let you become confident until you think you can stand by yourself. Then he will tempt you again and you will say bring it on. Your eyes will turn to the battle between you and temptation and not God and you will surely stumble and fall. Keep your eyes always on God, always rely on Him till your last breathe to keep you from temptation. And so we pray without ceasing among many other things, Our Father in heaven...lead us not into temptation but deliver us from the evil one. (Mt. 6:9-13) To him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you before his glorious presence without fault and with great joy to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, power and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all ages, now and forevermore! Amen. (Jude 1:24,25 ) deecee4jaycee writes on 2001-08-21
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Pulling it all together by lenblaides, 2001-01-08The most effective way to pull it all together may be demonstrated when Jesus prayed in the garden of Gethsemane. He was under tremendous pressure as he invisioned the death on the cross. The agony, the pain, the suffering, the shame .... all these were experienced in a moment of time as the battle for our soul was fought.
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